Pathologically Entrepreneurial
I’m a huge fan of tagging as a means to organize data. It’s powerful and flexible– and it oftentimes has some pretty exciting social ramifications.
If you aren’t familiar with tagging (and you want to be), you could get up to speed fairly quickly by checking on the wikipedia entry on Folksonomy. If you’re more interested in insight rather than information, you should check out what Josh Porter has to say on the subject (Josh is hands-down one of the most insightful bloggers out there IMHO).
As a guy who built a web 2.0 resume posting doohickey (chock full of taggy goodness), I’ve put a ton of thought into tagging, specifically in the context of UI. So it was with great interest that I attended the SXSW panel entitled, “Tag, You’re It!”. The panelists consisted of a lot of impressive folks– George Oates from Flickr, Heath Row from DoubleClick, Ben Brown from Consumating.com, and Thomas Vander Wal (the guy who evidently coined the term “Folksonomy”).
The panel was interesting but like a lot of SXSW panels, the more you knew about the topic, the less interesting it was… But, I digress.
The most interesting moment (for me) was during the (very short) Q&A session. A person asked the question, “How do you deal with synonymous tags?” It was obvious that this was not an uncommon question– George Oates had a canned answer for that question…. “You don’t,” she said (yes, George is a girl). “It’s perfectly okay and wonderful that 3 people might tag a single data object in three different– but really similar– ways.” There it was, case closed.
The panel was wrapping up, but I wanted to shout, “Hey WAIT A MINUTE. That’s GOT to be wrong!”.
As I reflect on it, it turns out that there are (at least) two types of tagging– one of which is clearly a winner. The other (which is the type we applied at Jobby and currently are dabbling with at Jobster) is doomed to failure unless we get clever about how we pull it off.
Tagging where the Selfish Motivation is Organization
Flickr and Del.icio.us are the tagging poster-children. They are wonderfully simple– they provide a storage repository for big chunks of personal data (photos for Flickr and bookmarks for del.icio.us) and give you a powerful means to organize them. People oftentimes tag in radically different ways. Some people have dozens or hundreds of tags. Others have only a few. As George pointed out, people oftentimes tagged things with very similar tags. One person might tag a resource with “rockstar”, while another might tag it with “rock_star”, and a third might tag it with “rock-star”. This is fine with Flickr and Del.icio.us… With the service they offer, it’s most important to allow users to label their data in the way that makes sense to them.
The core functionality is organization, and the ability to search/browse/find similarly tagged objects is serendipitous. As a Flickr user or del.ico.us user, you really have no huge incentive to have your data be found by anyone else.
Tagging where the Selfish Motivation is Improved Findability
The only panelist whose userbase was largely concerned with findability was Ben Brown, of Consummating.org. Essentially, his site (recently sold to CNET) is a site where geeks come and tag themselves so they can get matched up with other geeks so they can fall in love and make lots of baby geeks, presumably. This is not unlike the tagging model that we used at Jobby (and currently use at Jobster). People labeling themselves to get found by other people.
This is where the tagging concept starts to break down a little bit. All of a sudden, it’s no longer important what tags you’d use to describe yourself– it’s a hell of a lot more important what tags people would use in a search to find someone like yourself. There are a few unfortunate byproducts of a system like this:
So, are you screwed if your service has tagging to enhance the findability of your users? I hope not. Here are a few strategies we’ve used at Jobby and Jobster to keep tags from getting “spammy”:
I’m still waiting to see a site that really manages to nail the tagging/searching experience when the motivation isn’t just for personal organization. I’d love to hear more ideas on how this could be pulled off.
Justin
March 25th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Thanks for this post, I’ve been considering putting some tagging functionality into our product. Your comments were insightful and your links lead me to a lot of interested blog posts on the subject.
admin
March 26th, 2007 at 9:40 am
Thanks for stopping by, Justin! Yaw, I’ve invested a positively disturbing amount of time and brain cycles on the tagging thing. My list o’ bookmarks on the subject is positively frightening.
vanderwal
March 31st, 2007 at 6:58 pm
You should read the things that Wikipedia entry on folksonomy points to rather than the article itself as it is mostly rubbish.
The SXSW panel mostly focussed on things that are new and different in the past year rather than the basics. You seem like you have a good grasp of the basics. My sections was 8 minute out of a regular hour to full-day workshop on tagging. Many people these days can get a good grasp on tagging from many places.
I am interested to see what you will do with tagging on your site. There are many options for features to add, but what interfaces and interactions you put in front of the people using your site will drive it and its value. As well, the analytics and monitoring you do should impact how it will expand the use of your site.