Anecdotal but interesting: NYC and London Up & Coming in the World of Startups?

Every month or two, someone tosses up a “Who’s Hiring in Startups?” post on Hacker News. In my current voluntary jobless state, I’m looking at new startup ideas as well as hopping on board with pre-funding or barely-post-funding startups, so I took a look. One thing that leapt out at me was how broad (geographically speaking), the posts were (data below).

While I’ll generally happily go on about how the influence of the valley is waning (a combination of cheaper-to-get-traction startups and investors who are happy to look outside of their fertile valley), I still agree with Paul Graham– if you’re doing a startup, you meaningfully increase your shot at success if you live/move there… For now. But it seems like there is something special happening in the NYC area. And London(?). Coincidentally, both financial centers that might have seen a rash of disillusioned geeks moving away from the world of finance, perhaps?

Anyhow, here’s a breakdown of the various locations of startup jobs as of 9:40am or so. I know it’s not REMOTELY scientific– it just stuck out to me.

Note: if you’re hiring, you should add to the thread.

  • John

    Tony: Maybe you have so few job listings for Massachusetts because you can't spell it. Sheesh.

  • http://www.rescuetime.com webwright

    Ah, yes– I remember typing that and wondering why spell-check wasn't fixing

    it, but figuring I'd go look it up before I screenshotted it. Forgot.

    Good catch. Maybe you can work a bit on your sarcastic delivery, though. I

    think the internet needs a bit more snark, and you're just the guy to do it.

  • http://simplifiedecommerce.co Colin8ch

    Do you think with the increasing ease of working remotely, the location of the startup official corporate HQ will become less and less important? I've been hearing more stories about decentralized startups that have (or plan to have) a corporate or bizdev “presence” in NYC and the Vally, but otherwise have staff everywhere.

  • dshen

    NYC and London are arguably hot spots for tech, but I think that just because there are more job posts on hackernews isn't a significant enough sample to draw conclusions from. For ex, I think everyone would agree that there are more startups in the bay area than in NYC, but also the population of software engineers is probably higher than in NYC also, thus making it harder to find people in NYC simply because there are less engineers there…

  • http://www.rescuetime.com webwright

    Yeah, I totally don't think there is a drop of science in this analysis.

    But it just plain surprised me not to see the valley dominate in that

    thread. Another interesting tidbit– last month, 7% of my blog's visitors

    were from NYC. A year ago, 4.3% of August's traffic was from NYC. Again,

    goofy anecdotal data, but kind of interesting. With TechStars aiming at

    NYC, YC having an “Ambassador to the East” in Alexis Ohanian, DogPatch Labs,

    Hunch, etc… It sure seems like the NYC startup scene is accelerating.

  • http://kozancity.10001mb.com Kozan City

    'Anecdotal but interesting: NYC and London Up & Coming in the World of Startups?'

  • http://alexisohanian.com/ Alexis Ohanian

    Perception is reality. I think all the recent NY hype is indeed mostly hype, but it will go a long way toward convincing folks to give web startups a chance here. Here's to hoping it's a somewhat self-fulfilling prophecy :)

  • http://morphingthrough.blogspot.com/ rodica

    Good choice of metric for your inference :) I also read recently a post on the Wall Street Journal that went a bit more in-depth on the NYC scene in particular. http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/08/19/seven-reasons-tech-start-ups-are-setting-up-shop-in-new-york/

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